Saturday, August 23, 2014

Dancing in the silence, all One, vibrantly alive...Dialogues w/John

John Gallagher (real name) works in retail tech support, has 3 young kids, and was a charismatic Christian.   Six yrs ago he went into contemplative Christianity, doing contemplative prayer.  He has been working in nonduality for about a year and a half, practicing deep surrender and acceptance.  

This is a four month FB messaging follow-up on earlier posts "Dialogues w/John (cont) - openness, love, peace, freedom", "Dialogues w/John...10 wks to "absolute, stunning, perfection..." and "Dialogues w/John - nondual awakening".   John has asked that this be his last published Dialogue; we continue our work.  John can be reached at gall aghe rjo hnd at gma ildo tcom (take out the spaces - robo crawlers can't figure it out, supposedly) 


John

The feeling of dancing, of being the Infinite dancing is really starting to integrate into the system here. It's simply stunning. 

Hard to find too many words, but to really start to know that all is a beautiful play of consciousness, and to know it As consciousness.   I mean... wow!!!


Gary

That's why the cover of "Dancing Beyond Thought" is that, the Dance of the Universe, the magnificent, Universal play of Consciousness...

John

Yes. This morning it really clicked at a heart level. 
The phrase Dancing Beyond Thought.   I was like... oh yeah!

What I'm finding fascinating... is how little I know!


Gary

How little we all know!


John

Yes, it is astonishing how little we know and how humbling it is compared to the magnificent complexity and elegance of the Dance...

So wonderful...beautifully choreographed.

Anandamayi Ma
The experience is now somewhat like sinking into silence. 
Pure being.  Realizing the radiance of God... really beautiful...

This is very cool.  Stillness.  Heh.  And I guess it just keeps opening and opening and deepening and deepening...

Gary

Yes, it just goes on, and goes on and goes on... 
Cognitive neuroscientifically, presumably this is the brain getting it better worked out, and tightened up. 

John

Indeed. I just realized something else. 
No stories are true. Heh.

So... there's really nothing true... in the phenomenal world... 
huh... 
just a movie passing with each moment...

But that doesn't mean we negate it. It's just another thing to notice.

Anyway, the silence really now seems to have overwhelmed me.

I now see the world and myself as completely inseparable, one, unified, and the universe is clearly me. As well as being a person too. So, all in all, a good days work!!

I also know deeply that I am the silence or 'nothing' or emptiness or whatever. 

Man, this is pretty frikkin' sweet, dude.


Gary

A great step to recognize that you are the Silence and you and the world are One, unified and inseparable.  A good day's work, indeed.  How sweet it is...


John

Just gets better, eh. I now see clearly that what Is, and what I am, is unconditional love. 
Everything is that... everything is 'made out of' Presence'.   Jeez, louise

Heh.  So cool.  And... normal!   And yet also a complete mystery!
The mystery is how "we" overlooked it so long...it is so "normal"...
It's the normalness that's really getting me actually... so not what I expected...


Gary

Yes, the hard part is seeing that is it "normal", "common", "ordinary", but yet totally different, and then trying to explain that to folk...


John

The analytical mind can't really get the idea of all these things being true all at once. 
Gotta leave it to the heart for that one, eh?

I don't know how to best describe this but I just had another shift, but this one seemed way more substantial.   Like... actually knowing there are no problems, ever. 
Ever, ever, ever... 

Huh. Funny how things just 'drop in' and you get it even more. 
I feel like I've just 'woken up'!

Gary

And it is all happening w/o anyone doing anything, "all by itself" as it were. 
It gets deeper and deeper and clearer and clearer. 

Just when you thought it couldn't get any deeper, another key turns in a lock in a door that you didn't know existed, and another level opens.

John

It's just insane, Gary, crazy mental, man.
I'm not doing it, but it is happening, and I am 'It' and witnessing 'It'.  Erm...  Ehh??
This is one crazy trip, man.


Gary

What is witnessing all of this unfolding? 
Is it witnessed and "experienced" when it happens or afterwards? 


John

Erm.  As it happens... It's kind of On... Always On.
It seems like nothing is witnessing this. 
There is just This.  But that's kinda... weird!!

Time to keep quiet...I think

I realise now that I still had some belief in time etc., but now that's falling away too. 
It's a fascinating process this.

Weirdly, I still have this idea that it will 'end' at some point.  How strange!
Ok, that's gone too. 

Time to enjoy some quiet I think!

Ok. I think actually to "do", with not fully feeling into the body.  Somehow being disconnected from it. 

But now that seems to have become unblocked as it were, allowing the heart to breathe more fully. I don't feel in any kind of rush any more, and am not hoping for any kind of resolution. 

Simply exploring and discovering and feeling more and more into life.  Thanks again for being around _/\_

It's all been quite intense, in the last year or so.  Hoping it'll calm down a bit... !   And it has.  A sense of rest and knowing is here. 

We are here, dancing in the silence.  Nothing at all moving, and yet everything vibrantly alive.

Oh my... shall we dance...

There is no other way to be in the world...just Dancing...
You are the dance... and you are the dancer...

So I'm the only one here... can that be right?



Gary

That is the amazing, direct perception...everything in some strange way, is w/in "you", and they are all of the same energy, somehow, and all part of the same thing, even as they are clearly discernible as having different attributes. 

It also appears that there is no one else that is "real".   Of course, if you assume that there are two of us communicating, then the same is true of the other one, i.e. they only see everything as the same thing, and unreal. 
C'mon...
you don't know
Yoda?

The other assumption is that "I" only exist as you create "me". 

A strange Dance, it is, as Yoda would say.


John

Totally mind blowing...
Time for a cup of tea

May I ask? Do you experience life silently, predominantly?



Gary

Yes, as the studies showed, this silent, stillness is "my" predominant state, at least 89% of the time. 

i have no way to accurately measure that as living in the "Now", there is no honest, meaningful record of whether i was "experiencing life silently" or not 30 minutes ago, or 3 hours ago, or yesterday. 


John

So you're 11% humanoid.


Gary

Now you sound like some of the neo-advaitans and Buddhists who insist on keeping their self-referential internal narratives and their attachments and their suffering, so they will remain "human", implying that i'm not "human", since i don't have those. 

If you look @ my youTube video "What is Enlightenment?", i maintain that i am still "human", 100%....


John

I'm only joking

Ramana Maharshi
And anyway, I'm not interested in keeping any suffering whatsoever!

A deep sense of rest and arrival is occurring.  True rest in my true self. 

I'm so grateful that Ramana Maharshi appeared when he did. It seems that his guidance has helped to open myself up to myself in the truth of my heart.

I am forever grateful for your guidance as well, Gary. 
You are a beautiful treasure.  May this light continue to shine forth and the radiant truth be fully revealed. 

Blessings



2 comments:

  1. It is interesting it to see how 'Gary' rarely uses the term "I", and sometimes "i". Yet, 'John' uses "I" very often. Still, both are apart of the same entity. Interesting.

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    1. Hi Youssef. Yes, although "we" are all part of the same entity, yet we all dance a different dance, as Einstein said (in the video "Everything is Predetermined - Einstein and Ramana Maharshi") "we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper".

      Even as we look around "the world", we see many apparently wonderful and terrible, good and bad, things occurring and wonder "why" this could be. Is this world just a chaotic jumble of primitive drives driven by evolutionarily-encoded "survival of the fittest" behaviors, or is there some "method to the madness", some sense and direction behind all of chaos?

      If one goes through the "free will" and "predetermination" videos and blogposts by putting those terms in the youTube or blog search boxes (both Google platforms), it appears as if there is some long term goal - the evolution of the Universe. As everything in this world is evolving, it would be logical that the all pervasive field that runs through every atom, quark and photon, would be evolving as well.

      we know from our best current cosmology that galaxies do arise and disappear into the supermassive black hole at the core of all of the large galaxies, logically-based upon their evolutionary development and "fitness". Why then should the smallest part of our dance not be part of this greater dance and change as it fits into the greater puzzle, whether we view it as personally good or bad?

      stillness

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